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Informateur Hans Wijers (D66) is stepping down because of statements he made well before the elections in a messaging app conversation. Wijers had already come under fire for allegedly calling VVD leader Dilan Yesilgöz a “liar.” The latest news from The Hague. Dutch men fought in Ukraine. Two Dutch men went to Ukraine to defend European values. They explain how, as drone pilots, they spent months trying to fend off the Russians around Pokrovsk — until it became too dangerous. Reporter Gert-Jan Dennekamp spoke with the two and joins us as a guest. After fifteen years, Kick Out Zwarte Piet is stopping. Has the mission been accomplished?